Bungi Bill

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  Do you think the general public cares about former Jehovah's witnesses?

  by Christian Gutierrez in

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  i was wondering if you guys think if the general public cares about our stories or if they even care what the watchtower does to people??

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  Bungi Bill

  It is rather difficult to imagine that the "general public" even knows the existence of such persons as "former" JWs:

  - and even more difficult to believe that they might actually care!

  Health Professionals who are engaged in the counselling, psychology and similar fields, though, may be a different matter. Although the Jehovahs Witnesses make up only about 1/1000th of the world's population, they are very much over-represented amongst the patients of such professionals (This, according to a number of such counsellors that I have known) .
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  Why Do People Join Cults? A TED Talk -- JW's to a T

  by daringhart13 in

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  2. friends

  https://youtu.be/kb-djacxaxa.

  great video for showing how to define a cult.

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  Bungi Bill

  Interesting that "cults" are not limited to religious groups!
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  More scullduggery in the New World Translation?

  by NikL in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was reading in jude last night in the esv bible.. i came across this little gem as i was falling asleep and woke right up.. jude 1:5.

  5 now i want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that jesus, who saved a people out of the land of egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.

  jesus who saved a people out of egypt?

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  Bungi Bill

  steve2,

  Add to what you have just said the observation David_Jay has made on other posts that the religion did not come as a result of the scriptures, but rather the other way around. That is, the religion was already well established before the writings were completed.
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  As an Ex JW now, how would you react if you met your Bible study conductor?

  by EverApostate in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was a jw for 11 years , came to know ttatt and wrote my disassociation letter 5 years ago.

  since then i had been an atheist and trying all i can to spread awareness for “still in” members.

  my wife and mom are still jws and i do get along with them perfectly.

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  Bungi Bill

  I am not at all sure how I would react, although I am in no doubts what I would really like to say to him.

  That would include such things as what he said about 1975, how he stopped me from going to university, and later how he made me abandon my apprenticeship. (Or in general, how he managed to screw my life around).

  However, I know that if we were ever to meet up again, this person would not even speak to me, so none of the above is going to happen!
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  Watchtower Lost Lopez Summary Judgement

  by John Davis in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  superior court of california,.

  minute order.

  time: 10:00:00 am.

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  Bungi Bill

  Londo111,

  A "Summary Judgement" decision pretty much means that there is no case to answer for, and the matter is then just quietly dismissed.
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  Why does this forum tolerate Cold steele and his mormonism beliefs ? Who`s next ?

  by smiddy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i thought this forum was for people who were ex jw`s and pro jw`s and the like to debate ,discuss and reasonably talk about our differences ,and sometimes drift off into politics world events and whatever.. however over a period of time i have come across cold steel `s many posts which are nothing more than promoting his mormon religions point of view./beliefs what has that got to do with jehovahs witnesses and the concerns many have with the jw religion.?.

  it seems to me he is using this forum to promote his religion and is getting away with it over a long period of time.. how long before other cult religions see this as a springboard for promoting their own religion such as .

  sda`s ,christian scientists , christadelphians ,beroean bible students ,etc.etc.. where will it end if he is able to keep doing this ?.

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  Bungi Bill

  Cold Steel promoting the Mormon religion? There must be a point I am missing here, or something!
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  Could we have a topic subject on just watchtower organization news?

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for kingdom hall and branch closings, leaked documents and videos, number of baptisms at assemblies, news articles on child abuse and other.

  etc.

  thank you.

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  Bungi Bill

  nowwhat,

  You have a PM.
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  God of the Old Testament

  by unsure in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to those on these forums who are christian and or to those who believe in the god of the old testament; how does one overcome many of the questionable actions god took or allowed to happen in the old testament?.

  many if not most of us have heard of criticisms of the god of the old testament.

  you can find these criticisms on many websites.. how do you explain to an honest hearted person why god acted the way they did?.

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  Bungi Bill

  David_Jay,

  Firstly, we wish you a speedy recovery!

  Secondly, your following remark is a "real cracker" (as we would say down in this part of the world):

  "The real truth is that Scripture is based on religion."

  If that is not a "paradigm shift" for those of us from a Christian (particularly JW) background, then I don't know what is!
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  Could we have a topic subject on just watchtower organization news?

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for kingdom hall and branch closings, leaked documents and videos, number of baptisms at assemblies, news articles on child abuse and other.

  etc.

  thank you.

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  Bungi Bill

  nowwhat?

  Precious little interest being shown so far!
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  Watchtower Lost Lopez Summary Judgement

  by John Davis in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  superior court of california,.

  minute order.

  time: 10:00:00 am.

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  Bungi Bill

  Others may have to fill me in a little about the details of this case, although it is obviously yet another incidence of sexual abuse within the JW world. Also, two different congregations appear to have been involved?

  Reading through all the legalese, it appears from the above notes that:

  1) The WTS attempted to gain a "summary judgement motion / motion for summary adjudication" by claiming that there was no "triable issue of fact" involved.
  

  • It tried to make an issue out of the fact that Jose Lopez (the complainant) had "released" the agent (congregation), while still pursuing action against the principal (WTS). The WTS claimed that this "release" also applied to itself, the principal.
  • That argument, however, was dismissed by the court.
  • The WTS further tried to argue that as a religious organisation, it could not be held liable for "negligent hiring" - which in this instance, meant appointing a known pedophile to the position of elder.
  • The court, however, cited precedents in California law in which churches can be held liable for negligent hiring.

  2) As a consequence, the civil case will proceed against the WTS on 09/15/2017.

  Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, or fill in any details I may have missed!